After the acquisition of Redbeacon by Home Depot, it seems that there has been a flood of new startups going
after the local service market. But like many founders in that industry, Mark
Zappacostas, CEO of Thumbtack, had no idea the challenges and pressure he will
be facing. Even with 5.7 million dollars in funding, Mark Zappacostas did not have an easy time acquiring new customers. The 5.7 million dollars in funding just added more eyes over his
shoulders and people breathing over his neck pressuring him to succeed and
pushing him into making desperate decisions by turning to evil practices which
involves spamming and charging their users hidden fees.
It all started with this email from one of their worker "Heather"
Hey XXX,
I'm reaching out to you because
Thumbtack is getting a lot of job leads for handy mans, and I'm looking for
another handyman who is interested in taking on more clients.
After checking out your website I
think you are a great fit for Thumbtack and I'd love to start sending you job
leads. Please fill out a few details about your skills and rates, and I'll
start forwarding you potential new clients.
If you have any questions about what
Thumbtack can provide, please don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks,
Heather
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1001 Page St, Suite #45, San
Francisco, CA
This message is an advertisement.
Then again... but on another account
Hey XXX,
I'm reaching out to you because
Thumbtack........
How is this company getting my
email addresses? I've never submitted any email addresses to this company
before.
After doing a quick search on
Google, it turns out that many other people have the same questions as me in
regards to how this company obtains their email addresses.
Here's what some people said about
them:
"The spammed me too. Said they have image
consultant work and needed help. Wanted me to fill in their form and name my
prices. I’m not an image consultant. It was clearly a fishing expedition…SPAM"
"I just got one today, in which they let me know they visited my
website and found my credentials as a Home Inspector very Impressive! They want
me to fill out some forms and take on new clients for my Home Inpection
business. Trouble is…I’m neither a Home Inspector NOR do I have a Website! Spam
is just another word for SCAM…and that’s what these people are doing. No
legitiate business would tell such flagrant lies to try and get your attention,
and they ALWAYS depend on the greed (or financial need) of the recipient. Be
careful out there."
Through about a hundred complaints, it is obvious that this company has been scraping emails off the web and mass sending them. Emails are listed on my contact pages were scraped by Thumbtack and added to a list that would be mass emailed with a generic message. Spamming is an evil practice and to have a well-funded
start up in the Silicon Valley do it is embarrassing. No legitimate business
SPAM! You only see that with Nigerian scammers or affiliate marketers.
But what happens if someone
responds to this free service?
A few people responded to the ad and
became a victim of what we call bait and switch. A bait and switch is
when you offer someone something, and then you proclaim it is no longer
available and offer something else. In this case, they get you to enter
your company information, you’re offered a free lead then you are told the lead
is no longer available. They will then pitch to you that you will have a better
chance at landing the job if you get a background check with them for $7
dollars. They will then notify you that you have potential customers and try to
sell you leads. The leads cost anywhere
from $3-$7 dollars and you don't get any contact information such as email
addresses or phone numbers and when you do, the phone number will be
disconnected or a Google Voice number that no one will ever answer.
Here's what people had to say:
"So I very uncharacteristically
signed up and paid for a few “leads” totalling $6. I can tell you unequivocally
it’s a scam. The “leads” turned out to be to one phone number that was
disconnected and when it was listed belonged to someone different than the name
they sent me, and
another phone number which goes straight to voicemail with no callback
and is registered to a “business consulting” firm which has listings all over
the internet but no description of their services and no reviews(until I posted
on this morning.) Do not give these people any money! I am not usually so
gullible."
"Thumbtack is a total scam.
They started out free, then started charging up front in order to bid on any
so-called lead. The leads are phony, and Thumbtack is a racket, taking your
money under false pretenses. You don’t need Thumbtack to post on Craigslist,
people. Post your own ads — and you don’t have to pay for false leads!"
"I never get an actual email or
phone number for the lead. im forced to communicate through Thumbtack, even
after I paid them for the lead. I can’t continue doing business this way."
"I have been on Thumbtack for
two months, and I have received 13 leads but not one has been a hit. I thought
like everyone else, SCAM! There is probally no one really behind the lead,
Thumbtack just makes them up. Then, I actually got a call from someone and it
had given me new hope. I am a struggling business man trying to survive in this
economy drop. So finding something like Thumbtack gave me something else to
look at besides CL. I have been with CL for about a year, actually get to talk
to real people. Even though they try to low ball you, they are still real. Back
to the point, I talk to a real person for once but never heard back as well as
with the other leads you send. If I could get one lead, a real job, out of this
or even hear ONE positive thing about this site you might convince me to stay
on. I have paid for a BG check a few 7% leads and a Monthly fee of 14.99 and if
I do not see my money turn something around. Then I will have to be on the side
that seems to be where everyone else and shout out SCAM! I have even called the
# you posted and it said the Google voice subcriber is not availble (more than
once). I have had some leads say that the customer is no longer in need of my
services and that the customer is “not performing” yet you also state we will
be reimburse for any bad leads. Can you show me anywhere where people have
actually gotten any work from this site, a praise report of some kind. One
other thing can you guys post leads for all to bid on even if you only allow
access for those that pay the monthly fees. I reply once for a lead and then never
hear from them again with nothing that says they found someone else or any kind
of closing. Please help!"
Wait that’s not all!
If that’s not bad enough, we learned that Thumbtack also hijack these company's
Google Places Pages and upload pictures that include their watermark and direct
users to their website to fill out request forms!
"Today I went to my google
places account and I saw some images I had upload to my thumback listing, those
pictures had a link to Thumback site. I assume the pictures were uploaded into
google places by Thumback. The issue I have is that if customerse are finding
my business on google places which is free, and for some reason decide to click
on the images ( which redirect to Thumback), I will be receiving the lead from
thumback, so if I want to contact the client I will end up paying for the lead,
something that initiated from my free google listing, the same applies for the
listing in craig list, which is free, but is linking to thumback."
"I will ask the people at google places to delete the
pictures thumback uploaded with the link to their website. For now the images
still on my google places account, and since I deleted my thumback account,
they are being offered to contact other similar service providers. Not right in
any way."
"Thumbtack does place their
name on your images and creates a link to their site in your FREE Googles
Places Listing! Then the customer goes to their site and filles in their
information and what they want. That information not only goes to you, but all
other cleaning businesses signed up with Thumbtack!!!! So your Google Places
Page is giving your competition your business. Not right! Not so easy getting
that image off of your Google Places Page either. I loved Thumbtack, until I
found this out. I was recommending Thumbtack to all of my friends and business
associates until this. Thumbtack should not send your leads to your
competitors. That is not fair business practice. Not to mention the fact that
it was a FREE lead to you and because they IMPOSED their link into your Google
Places Page it then becomes a paid link! That should be changed. Good luck and
I hope that Thumbtack changes their process. Have a great day!"
But why is succeeding in this market
so difficult? This business is very simple right? A user submits a form
describing what jobs they need done and it’s then sold to a bunch of
professionals. It’s a Win-Win situation. Nope! Here's why. There are too many
companies out there offering the same service and not enough people
requesting services from professionals. There are already two major players in
the market and that’s more than we need. With Service Magic and RedBeacon
as the main player, leaves only a few users for Thumbtack and rest. In order to
satisfy just the professionals alone, thumbtack has to send quality leads. Now
quality leads are hard to fine, because most people requesting service are not
actually looking to get jobs done anywhere in the near future and if they are
seriously thinking about getting something done they will request proposal/bids
from multiple professionals leaving the others unsatisfied. Thumbtack could not
generate leads thus forcing them to scrape emails, spam users, and gives
struggling small businesses and professionals false leads and upselling them.
Source:
More comments regarding thumbtack.com
http://donsdeals.blogspot.com/2011/08/what-fees-does-thumbtack-charge-when-i.html
Thumbtack CEO responses to comments
http://darrenslaughter.com/review-is-thumbtack-an-answer-to-google-instant-for-contractors/